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You know, in a rehearsal once, a dancer fell. And he just... He just put it right into the production. I mean, can you imagine that? Like in a... In a classical ballet? You know, a dancer, intentionally falling. There's a whole new word for dance now. It's called "abstract." No, he's not the only one, though. There's Lincoln Kirstein and Lucia Chase, and oh, my... Oh, there's Agnes de Mille. She's just torn up all those conventions, you know, all that straight-up-and-down stuff. It's not about the formality of the dance, it's about what the dancer's feeling. As she told me about this big new world, names that didn't mean a thing to me, I didn't really hear very much of what she was saying. It's new and it's modern and it's American. They understand our vigor and our physicality. Oh, my God. I've just been talking and talking. No, no, I've enjoyed listening. I didn't know you smoked. I'm old enough.