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So, uh, you've been doing guest shots on episodic TV shows the last couple of years? Yeah. Yeah. I'm doing a pilot f-for CBS right now. It's called... It's called Lancer. I play the heavy. Did a, ahem, Ron Ely Tarzan. I did a Land of the Giants. Green Hornet. I did that show, uh... Bingo Martin with that kid Scott Brown. Yeah. And I got a F.B.I. that-that airs this Sunday. You, um... You always play the bad guy on these shows? - Y-yeah. Mm-hm. - Yeah. So, and they have a fight scene at the end of them? Well, not... Not... Not Land of the Giants or F.B.I., - but the rest, yeah. Yeah. - And you lose in the fight? [CHUCKLES] Yeah. Yeah, of course. I'm... I'm the heavy. Oh, that's an old trick pulled by the networks. Now, you take Bingo Martin, for example. - Mm-hm. - Right? So you got a new guy like Scott Brown. You wanna build up his bona fides, right? So you hire a guy from a canceled show - to play the heavy. - Hmm. Then at the end of the show, when they fight, it's hero besting heavy. But what the audience sees is Bingo Martin whipping Jake Cahill's ass. - Uh-huh. - You see? Then next week, it's Ron Ely. And next week, it's Bob Conrad, wearing his tight pants, kicking your ass. - Yeah. - [CHUCKLES] Now, in another couple of years, playing punching bag to every swinging dick new to the network, that's gonna have a psychological effect on how the audience perceives you. Right. So, Rick, who's gonna kick the shit out of you next week? Mannix? The Man from U.N.C.L.E.? [CHUCKLING] The Girl from U.N.C.L.E.? How about Batman and Robin? Ping. Pow. Choom. Zoom. [CHUCKLES] Down goes you. Down goes your career as a leading man.