Duration: 45.7s

What's the other thing? Oh, yeah. An insatiable thirst for validation. - She's not kidding. - I'm not. How about you? - Code. - Code? - Code. - Code, yeah. There we go. 'Cause it's not just zeros and ones, it's hidden messages. I like to think of myself, actually, as not a code writer, but an author. I just use zeros and ones instead of words 'cause words will let you down. But zeros and ones, never. Zeros and ones are as cool as shit. - He's not kidding. - I'm not. Now, I've gotta ask. There is a lot of chemistry between the two of you. - Has this evolved into more than-- - No. - No way. No. It's strictly platonic. - No, no, no. We're friends. - We're like best friends. - Friendship. And now your game is gonna be released by Soonami, one of the biggest publishers in the world. - It's crazy, actually. - It is, yeah. It does seem a little bit like an unlikely pairing, though.